The Ben & Jamesa Podcast

Ep. 135: Disruption and A Real Pain

Ben and Jamesa Season 8

 In today’s episode, Ben and Jamesa reflect on the recent blackout in Portugal and what it revealed about control, flexibility, and unexpected stillness. They also dive into insights sparked by the film A Real Pain, exploring themes of grief, family dynamics, mental health, and the lifelong practice of learning to get along. It’s a conversation about disruption, connection, and what we carry with us—whether the lights are on or not. 

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