
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations About Community
Welcome to The Ben & Jamesa Podcast, where we explore conversations about community.
In each episode we challenge each other, and you the listener, to unlearn old patterns and build more compassionate, authentic connections in every area of life.
If you're new here, start with episode #137, “Start Here,” for an overview of our work and podcast. After that, dive into any episode that resonates with you as we break down how to move from control to genuine connection.
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations About Community
Ep. 142 Why Do White People Hate Black Joy?
In this episode, we dig into the discomfort, resentment, and backlash that often show up when Black joy takes center stage—especially around holidays like Juneteenth. We explore why white supremacy depends on Black suffering, how joy becomes an act of resistance, and what it reveals about white identity when that joy is met with hostility. Jamesa shares personal stories, we unpack current headlines, and yes—there’s even a mushroom fact.